shimano 105 ou ultegra

Tiagra and below, despite being perfectly adequate for your first few sportives (probably all your sportives) and for your daily commute, should be eschewed in favour of 105 or Ultegra as soon as your functional threshold power hits 150W. If so, I like the 105 bike more. Size is most important of the factors you mentioned. The bike at $1750 is a size 52 and the bike online at $1100.00 is size 54. Also, according to Shimano’s website Ultegra’s wider crankset design permits frame manufacturers to build wider bottom brackets—the part between the pedals inside the frame—and thu… The only thing I can’t speak to is the 105 brakeset, since I have Avid disc brakes on the cross bike. Ultegra’s barrel adjuster might simply be nicer from the perspective of a mechanic. OK, it was aluminum, but I don’t ride that hard to cause frame issues : ) After 10 or so years I upgraded from low end 105 to Ultegra and things were excellent. I’ve got full Ultegra 6800 11 speed, mostly because I bought a year-end clearance Giant for $200 less than my LBS was selling a Domane with 105 10 speed. Derailleurs undergo a ton of force, loads and movement. Right now I ride about 20-30 miles 2-3 days a week. Désormais, vous pouvez aussi opter pour des freins à disque hydrauliques. Yo! Yo! Still have the 105 calipers, so I think that is the only remnant of the original groupset. Also braking performance and feel, which of course is really important over the long haul. There is zero difference in any of the moving parts in shape or function. If the online bike seller accepts returns if their description is incorrect and pays return shipping then that is a value in their favor. I ride about 80-150 miles a week June – October and hope to do some century rides. The 105 has a bit more ‘heft’. In short, an Ultegra chain will shift better than a 105 chain. The question though is which groupset should you pick, should you pick Shimano 105 or Ultegra? So I was faced with buying 10 speed stuff that was fast becoming obsolete and impossible to service or a new bike. the current ones), again with Di2 options. I rode a tri bike with mech ultegra for 2010-2014 then upgraded to di2 on the new tri bike in 2015. I am trying to choose between a 2015 Cannodale CAAD 10 105 for $1100 or a Cannondale CAAD 10 with Ultegra for $1750. Suite à la première partie de notre dossier sur les groupes route et triathlon, voici les détails des poids et prix publics conseillés pour les pièces ou groupes complets de ce millésime 2019/2020. Hear about each post as soon as I publish. Le pédalier Shimano FC-5800 délaisse l’architecture à cinq branches pour celle à quatre branches héritées des groupes Ultegra et Dura-Ace, plus légère et plus rigide. Can anyone comment on how the 2 compare? There is your performance increase right there! My soft tail Ti mtb is going on 17 years, and the flexing chainstays move hundreds of thousands of times with no apparent change. 105 weighs 200g more, all else being equal), which in the grand scheme of anything other than pro cycling is kind of irrelevant. Indeed, the recent upgrade of 105 from 5800 to R7000 makes it even more comparable to Ultegra, performance wise. Shoot me down if you like, but I’m erring towards the 105 in terms of looks. As we begin to understand what we like and what we don’t like, after that 10,000 shift, we begin to appreciate ulegra and it’s smoothness. Both Ultegra 6800 and Shimano 105 R5800 could give 11 speeds and you may get up to five different options in the cassette range. Rather than you changing gear physically by pulling on (or releasing) a cable, electronic shifting uses little motors attached to the front and rear derailleurs in order to make the changes. Ultegra offers better brake pads, better component quality. If your this has been happening since new possibly the chain is too long or the B screw needs adjustment. There has to be a limit to rear wheel spacing and a limit to the number of gears that are useful. I certainly saved enough to replace the brakes if I feel they are really inferior on the 105 compared to what I am used to. If the upgraded bike is 11s and the online one 10s there is a slight value to the LBS bike. (Which I reckon is a song lyric waiting to be put to music*). Shimano va avoir un problème avec de 105 di2. Buying from a Local Bike Shop has a value because you’ll be given preferential treatment over someone off the street when you go in for subsequent work. Chez SRAM, cela correspond au Rival) Tiagra (l’équivalent de l’Apex chez SRAM) If you click on an Affiliate Link and then buy something, I get a small commission. Your next bike: Tri bike? I ride a 10s but many of the people I ride with have 11s. Very helpful article as I am looking to upgrade from Sora. Il n'a donc plus grand-chose à leur envier, si ce n'est la cassette 11 vitesses, puisque ce Tiagra reste en 10 vitesses… The dents also reveal how many carbon frames might have been trashed in those years. Before changing anything I would look for the real problem. I do think the Ultegra runs slightly quieter and shifts slightly more smoothly, but both seem equally durable (2500 miles on each). It’s most helpful in working out which generation of a given groupset you have/you’re buying. Considerations on weight but most importantly feel are largely based upon the internal mechanism. Updated with actual weights, deals, price, specs table, and more I’m not a pro rider and I just use my bike for city riding. Subscribe below and I will send you enjoyable and helpful cyclo-info straight to your inbox. Well, let’s face it. Which I suppose makes sense since one is two years old (but is new). 11s is the new norm and you will be able to easily get parts further into the future than 10s. I subsequently found a decent deal on used Di2 electronics and was able to slap them on. Check out our comparison of Shimano 105 v Shimano Ultegra. The Giant Defy is probably the cleanest example of the 105-Ultegra cost differential, with the specifications on the two bikes otherwise being very similar, if not identical. Even Shimano makes the distinction, with this little grey line on its website: In truth, what tends to happen is that you get your first road bike and it comes with whatever it comes with (in my case it was a ragtag set of Campagnolo and Miche components). Sit back, relax, neck an energy gel and get ready to talk groupsets. These are also the middle names of my daughters.). Thank you! Canyon, Cannondale and Specialized upgrade other components as you move up the range (wheels, for instance). I would guess you’ll be able to find 10s parts for many years to come. IMHO 105 vs Ultegra should not play a determining factor in your decision. Well, when Di2 first came out, initially for Dura-Ace then followed by Ultegra, it seemed a reasonable bet to say that 105 would be next in line for electrification. Ooh, I seem to be first. Of course the chain is also thinner in 11s. $565.09 - $2,658.06. The 105 updates are great. If you feel a difference, it is a placebo effect. As things wear you can upgrade to Ultegra if you want, or you can experiment with changes. 105 (la référence. I’ll certainly be thinking about getting Ultegra on my next bike. Whether that’s important, one must judge for oneself. That said, my bike is setup for 126mm dropouts and is a 7 gear rear with downtube shifters. All dressed up with tires and cassettes both sets come in under 6 #. I’ve done this myself, with my 10-speed 105 5700 groupset. Assuming you’re working across compatible families, this is certainly possible. Can you include more on how these two group sets perform? Présenté en avril 2018, le groupe Shimano 105 R7000 est le frère cadet du groupe étendard Dura-Ace 9100 / R9150 Di2 (dévoilé au printemps 2016) et du groupe “best-seller” du manufacturier japonais, l’Ultegra R8000 / R8050 Di2 (dévoilé au printemps 2017). Dreraillers had to be changed to match the shifter. My local REI (US cooperative outdoor equipment chain of stores) priced the one I ordered at $1799, a ridiculously low price, and an expert there said I’d be surprised at how good the model 105 group-set is nowadays, and that I’d probably not be disappointed. 6800 series Ultegra are of a different design to 105, and are said to be noticeably more powerful. I doubt I can tell the difference as I’ve only been riding recreationally (75-100 miles weekly) for 2 years. If that’s 105, fine. I assume both bikes are 10s. You finally succumb to the rule of n+1 and you start looking for your first ‘proper’ road bike. They update every few years so I just replace them when new sets come out. Now we find ourselves with R7000 (the current 105) as Shimano’s most recent update (of this higher-end trifecta), and people talking about Dura-Ace being due the next upgrade. Sometimes it’ll change immediately, with hardly any noise, sometimes there will be a slight delay and a definite clunk when it goes. I had a Cannondale 2.8 from the mid 90’s. I started my search last year and it was so overwhelming I just said forget it. If they both seem about the same goes with the smaller size. I don’t mind spending $90 for calipers…the best brakes you can buy is never a bad choice in my opinion. My summer bike is all Ultegra, and my winter bike has 105 shifters, mechs and an RS500 crankset. (Harry Enfield I’m considerably richer than you). Aluminum would have snapped long ago, with any flexing at all. Then as things start to wear out upgrade. However I suspect that the 105 would have been fine for many years of fun and excitement. I just did this on my Domane – new cables, cassette, chain, brake pads and chain rings – recorded in this series of YouTube videos – and the improvement has been amazing. A 12-28 would have been far more practical and although I don’t think I “need” the 28, I do live in a very hilly area and would have embraced the spin if I had that smaller gear. Precise shifting and much better ergonomics. My bike is a Trek Domane 4.3 (the 2013 version), which at the time cost £1,800. Groupe Shimano Ultegra. After 105, there is Ultegra and Dura-Ace, both of which have mechanical and electronic shifting (known as Di2) versions. An Ultegra lever will shift and brake better and will typically last longer than a 105 lever. As Jantzen says it is only one extra gear. There’s really nothing in it. Anyway, to aid comprehension, here’s a little table I knocked up to show the range numbers of the current and prior generations of top end Shimano groupsets: The dates show the ‘model year’ for when each new generation was launched. Now a (very) quick canter through the different elements of the groupset: If you want more of an idea then this article provides a pretty comprehensive overview of the various group sets on the market. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. You get some idea of the relative costs though. What are the tricks and tips for inflating a disc wheel? (*By Kraftwerk, if there’s any justice in the world). I suspect the difference will be smaller when comparing to 5800. In the big picture, the Ultegra group is 220 grams lighter (which is a little more than ½ a pound) and costs $300 more than the 105 group. The front caliper is nearly hosed, so looking to upgrade, and for $90 shipped I can have Ultegra 8600 calipers. None the wiser, that’s where. As far as everything else, the difference between the 6800 and 5800 is negligible except for the rear derailleur and shifter. For function or longevity is it worth the price, can’t be as they’re the same. With the Ultegra’s, it is almost always an immediate shift and just enough feedback to know it went, but not enough to be annoying. Ultegra components are also stiffer, meaning that the bike doesn’t “flex” under the load of hard pedaling, wasting energy. Mais qu’en est-il à long terme ? To take a left-field view on all this; people are talking of buying a different sized bike, to get Ultegra, but the most important this is how the bike fits you. Apparu en juin 2015, le Shimano Tiagra (séries 47000) adopte le même style esthétique que le 105, l'Ultegra ou le Dura-Ace, grâce à l'arrivée d'un pédalier à quatre branches.

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